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Welcome to Book Shop Chats, your go to podcast for indie authors and learning insight into what it takes to write a book (HINT: You can do it too!!)
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From Fan Fiction To Fantasy: Building Soulmateless with Morgana Sandpiper
What if a kingdom promised true love to everyone—except its two protagonists? We sit down with author Morgana Sandpiper to unpack Soulmateless, a fantasy where a prince longs for a forbidden match and a shapeshifter princess must hide who she is to survive. Their paths collide at the fault line between fate and choice, and we explore how that tension mirrors the emotional realities of modern dating, belonging, and being heard.
Author Bio:
She lives in New York state with her family and cat. When she's not writing, she's working on other ways to bring good times and imagination to people in the hospitality industry. In her downtime, she is looking to uncover new things, whether it's a recipe, a book, an art technique or a new place to visit.
Blurb:
"Life will still hold its beauty, but there will always be an empty space that longs to be filled.”
In Amara City, where everyone’s expected to find their soulmate, Prince Amias is devastated when he’s told he doesn't have one. Though one dream is crushed, his other wish — to serve the kingdom — can be fulfilled. When he runs into Clara, a snarky girl who just arrived in the city, Amias insists on helping her settle in.
But being around Clara has its consequences. When the kingdom needs Amias' help to stop murderous black-furred shifters, her arguments have him asking if his people are lying about them. With innocent lives, his family and friends on the line, he must decipher the truth before he misses his chance to save everyone — all while resisting his flourishing love for Clara, doomed to destroy them both.
Soulmateless is the first book in an urban fantasy romance trilogy. This heartwrenching journey is perfect for readers of forbidden romance, magic and unique takes on fated mates.
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Welcome to Bookshop Chats, where we cozy up with books, creativity, and embrace the magical, messy process of writing a book. I'm Victoria Jane, a writer, developmental editor, and coach for sensitive busy writers, and I love to support you on your journey of bringing your story to life. So whether you're here for inspiration, behind the scenes peaks of what it what it means to actually write a book, or just some bookish conversations, you are definitely in the right place. And if you're looking for more personalized support, I also offer one-to-one writing support sessions to help bring your story to life because sometimes you need a little bit of support digging through the noise that is your brain because same. And if you've got a finished draft, I would love to chat to you about developmental editing. It is my favorite thing. I love supporting authors and bringing their story to life. You can find all of the details in the show notes. So grab a coffee, grab a tea, plug in your headphones, go on a little walk, and let's dive into today's episode. Welcome back to Bookshop Chats. In today's episode, I am chatting with Morgana Sandpiper. Welcome to the podcast.
SPEAKER_01:Thank you. Thank you for having me on here. I just released my book um Monday, July 14th called Soulmateless, and I wanted to like introduce it.
SPEAKER_00:I love it. I'm so pumped for this. This is like such a huge thing. And we'll definitely tap on this um, like toward like after we kind of get to hear all about your book of just like the the magic of that sort of like publishing week, right? Like you've worked so hard and now it's finally out in the world. But before we dive into that, I would love for you to share a little bit about this book because obviously the readers can't see the cover, but it looks amazing. Um, and I you've already you've already like drawn me in. I can just show it again. I love it. It's so pretty.
SPEAKER_01:It's so pretty. Thank you, though. I was trying to make it very, very pretty. So Soulmate List is about a prince named Damias, and he lives in the kingdom of love, and he and he wants a soulmate because everyone in the kingdom has a soulmate. So he so obviously that's that's something that he really wants, and but he can't have it, according to his grandmother, who is the deity of love. Meanwhile, there's the there's a runaway princess from an enemy kingdom, her name's Ignatia, and she is trying to survive. She has to pass through the kingdom of love, which hates her people because they think that they're evil, that her kind as a shapeshifter, she thinks that they're evil. And she has she has to keep her identity a secret and try and make it try and make it past this kingdom. Their past collide, and they can either pull their fates to their demise or to their dream.
SPEAKER_00:But that's so fascinating to me. Um, I'd love to hear a little bit about how you came up with this like idea, the story. I always find that so interesting. Uh whether like these stories like kind of choose us or they come from like a random thought or things like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, okay. So that it's actually a lot kind of a long story because I love it. Yeah, because Soul Maintless, like the idea, like the characters and stuff, like it all kind of started at like a completely different point, like in middle school, where that's when I first had the character, like a mice, my male main character from the kingdom of love. Um, that's when I first like came up with him, and it was completely different. There were cats. Like, if you read the if you know about the Red Cat series by Aaron Hunter, it was deeply inspired by that. And so there were there were cats at first, and then and then at first it was like a whole heaven and hell kind of a thing, and then slowly like I it developed as I was growing up, and then one, and then it just kept on changing based on like different shows and listening to other people and different books, and and then eventually one day like like I we I had to rework my story because I was because I got per I got um not permission. What's the word? That's not the right word at all. Um the word oh I got um feedback.
SPEAKER_00:I got feedback. That's it. You know, sometimes writing is hard. I swear, I'm like, how do I spell these words? What word is this? Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:The tip of my tongue, but um, yeah, I got feedback um before. And I don't know, like they said, like you like this should be like a whole different world, and like like they said like a lot of things that I needed to change, and my story was way too long, so then I had to rework it. And I've gotten like I'm in a writing group and they would ask me like a lot of questions. We got we go back and forth. I don't know what one time I was like, you know what? What if everyone but the main characters had a soulmate? Like, well, someone asked me, like, because at first they were going to be soulmates, the the main characters, and then I was like, what if it's not that way? What if it what if everyone but the main characters has a soulmate? And then that's kind of the base of it, and then how it spiraled into soulmateless. So I mean, if so, technically it started like years ago, but then but then only recently I had the idea that everyone but the main characters had a soulmate. So like definitely.
SPEAKER_00:I think that's such a good thing to remember, and that's often been the theme that I've I've heard amongst many of the authors that I've like connected with and chatted with, and even in my own experiences, we had these ideas like as kids, or like randomly, and the character like hangs out, but we don't really do much with it, or whatever we do with it is very different than how it actually ends up. And I think it's really cool to see how it like eventually kind of comes to life. And I really do believe that it's they cut it fully forms and the book comes and you get it out into the world when you're ready to write that and you're ready to like have that story kind of move through you, which is really neat. And I love that you mentioned like writing groups. Um was writing something that you obviously you you did like as a child, and how have you found that that sort of experience for you now that you are like taking writing more seriously? Obviously, you've got a book out. How was yeah, how how did you find that sort of like starting to share your work with others? Um, because that can be a really scary thing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it can definitely be. Um, yeah, I was writing a little bit when I was little. Um, like when I had so I had these like two stuffed animals and like there were jaguars, and like I pretended they have like a whole like Romeo and Juliet kind of a situation. It was kind of pretty aggressive for like I was in second grade, it was pretty aggressive for being in second grade because it was all like there was a lot of like abuse and like like dying and stuff. So um, so uh I started writing then because I'm like because I used to draw it and like I was like I can't express the whole story through drawing, so I was like, maybe I could write the whole story. So I kind of I started it, I never finished it, and then I kind of kept doing that. Like I would like start something and then never finish it and then keep going. And then I started to and then I got into Wattpad when I was in in middle school, and I was I was doing fan fiction. Um we love the fan fiction, and um yes, and uh yeah, there was this show, it was like a it's a preschool show. Is this because I was obsessed with the Lion King when I was like really young, and then there was the show, like a preschool show called The Lion Guard that came out, and I was excited about because I I was really into the Lion King, and it was a Lion King like little spin-off, even though it was for like preschoolers, and um like I was like I could do it with my sister, so I loved it. And there was there was this like these two characters, and I was like, I'm pretty sure they're an enemies to love a relationship. So then, but then there were like seas it was like um three seasons, and season um two came out, and they weren't together then, but there was definitely hints that they were together, so I um so with that relationship, I decided that I wanted to finish the story, and I actually shared it, and it was the first time I finished a story, and I just like there was a lot of people that were like, Oh my gosh, I really love this story. And I was like, Oh wait, maybe I should work on my own story and like like actually stick with it. And then I I didn't until one day I was so I was doing my own original story with with soulmateless, but like a different, a completely different version. And I started and I started writing it one day again because I kind of kept going on and off after that fan fiction went up. And uh so I went on and off and soul soulmateless. Um I was I was like, I should write again when I was in college because call in college I got a pretty easy degree. Like it was like it was like I don't I don't need to study for this. Like it was like pretty, it was a pretty easy degree for me. So I was bored. I was like, I have nothing to do. Like this class, the classes are like I got like six hours of free time, like yeah, it was it was like boring. So I'm like, maybe I should write again. So then I um went through I did I think 10 chapters until I got stuck and I went on Reddit, and someone in the in the comments was like, Hey, um how about um like do you want to do a manuscript swap? And then I agreed, and so like she so I read her story, her story was amazing, and I can't wait for hers to be published. Um, but um she so she showed me her story and then she she read mine and she was and she gave me like a bunch of pointers, but she also like gave me like, oh yeah, I really like this part, like oh, this is really good. And so she gave and then she also gave like with the pointers. I was like, like I felt encouraged because like I got honest feedback and I was like, oh, that's what I was missing about this story, and then it kind of just kept evolving, and I met other writers and we all kind of went back and forth, and then like I I I really need like I don't know, I really how I went about like sharing it. I guess I really just needed I was I had a good experience on Wattpad before, and I was I needed that like advice, I needed advice when I was writing Soulmate List. So I asked on Reddit, like, hey, could somebody help me? I'm stuck and so yeah, it is it could be a very scary thing to do to share, but I guess like I was I was kind of like like okay, I'm bored, I need something to do, and I need and I'm stuck on this, so I need someone to help me out here. So like, and I just I don't know, I don't think I was very confident in myself then because I I was like, yeah, I'm not sure if my story sucks or not, but I'm like hopefully someone could tell me that because I don't know, because I'm really I really needed critique. I that's that's the thing. I really needed critique, so I kind of needed to uh I just needed someone to help guide me and like like not not guide me. I well, I mean I guess kind of guide me, but you know, like not in making the story, but like just finding out like like where what am I doing wrong, what could be added, why am I stuck here, you know? Um definitely yeah, so yeah, I yeah, I just kind of went about because I'm like I I feel like I need it, I need the feedback, and that's kind of how I kept doing it. I did it, I shared it whenever I needed that feedback, and then and then sharing it out to the world was a lot was a lot scarier because it's like I'm not sure if it's good, but I've gotten some really good arc reader reviews that help. But yeah, sometimes you just kind of sometimes you also gotta just share like beside like despite yourself because sometimes you pull yourself away from those kind of opportunities because you're like scared, but sometimes you gotta just like go beside yourself. That was a long answer.
SPEAKER_00:I am here for that. Um, and that's so true, really. Like, I feel like a big part of writing is kind of learning how to well trust yourself enough to tell the story, and also really finding people that like you said can help support you. And it's not like they're I mean, usually if you find a good group of uh writers that you know you all kind of like swap stuff together, the way that they give feedback is helpful because it's not like they're bashing it, they're they're coming from it as a writer themselves. So they know, like, okay, so these are things that you might want to look for, especially if you're a new writer, right? Like when I started writing, I really didn't know much about how to structure a story and really didn't realize that there was so much more that goes into it than like a beginning, middle, and end. And you're like, wait a minute, we actually have to like tell the story and show the story and like create these like dynamic characters and all this sort of stuff. So having somebody to give you feedback is like it's key, I think, um, because you don't know what you don't know. And as the writer, you're so close to the story. So I think that's something to keep in mind, even if like the most, you know, like top 10 like bestseller trad published authors still are gonna have these issues because they know their characters inside of out and out, and they're gonna be like, this first draft is probably crap. Please help me fix it, right? So that's I think that's just the nature of creativity and writing stories is that you have to utilize a community and like that. I feel like at least for me, creativity really thrives when I can kind of like talk through those plot problems and stuff. Um, and then it just it makes the process a lot less lonely because it is such a it can be very lonely.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, exactly. I I definitely agree with that. And my story wouldn't be the way that it is if I didn't go back and forth with other people. So yeah, it it is definitely necessary. It is scary, but it is like to me, it's very necessary because yeah, I did it. There was a lot of things I did not know when I was starting out. So definitely.
SPEAKER_00:Um, well, I would love to hear a little bit about how things have gone now that it is out in the world. I always find this part really fascinating. Um, obviously, like celebrating the fact that this week is like your book launch week and publication week. So that's huge and amazing. Um like you did the thing, and that's a huge, that's like a huge accomplishment. So I'd love to hear a bit about how that kind of like feels for you now that you're like, oh my gosh, it's done. Like, what do I do?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, it does kind of feel like, oh, oh wow, like, oh shoot, what what what am I gonna do now because it's out? Then you gotta think about marketing, and then I'm like, I gotta think about my next book um because Soulmate List is a trilogy. So I I like yeah, I've been having so like now I'm just um like figuring like how do I how do I market it? Like I like how do I get it out there because um like yeah, there's there's just been like I guess I guess this could be like a little not confusing, but you feel a little lost because you're like there's so many things that you could do with like marketing, and you like I don't know which one will work. Uh like I'm not sure if that will work, or if like because like some people say, like, oh yeah, this like get it, like for example, getting a viral video, they'll be like, This worked for me. Like, look at how many page reads I got after a viral video, and then like some people will be like, I got nothing. So I guess like now that it's out, I'm just kind of like before I was like, okay, I'm gonna get arc readers, like that's my goal, and that and that was easier, but then but then once you get to after publishing, then you're kind of like, Well, how do I market it? How do how are people gonna know about my book? And uh yeah, so I mean, yeah, I'm happy that it's out too, like just like like okay, it's available to the world, and that's pretty cool. Yeah, it's just like yeah, it's like for the book launch itself, it's like okay, well, it's it's crazy that it's out there and that people could just like go in and read it on like Kindle Unlimited and and Amazon. And yeah, like I'm like, okay, well, it's time to market, but but yeah, it is it does feel like a little bit overwhelming uh marketing-wise. Um, I also, but I will also say I also got a large amount of support um when it comes, when it came to launch day, and uh I I was on Instagram, I had um my arc readers, they were sharing my posts and they were saying beautiful things. Like there are things that my arc readers have been saying, and I'm like, never in a million years did I think you would ever say that about my book, but thank you so much. Like there's like like they they really connect with the story and like it's it's a beautiful thing. And I'm like, like I never thought that because there's so many times I wanted to rip my book apart, but I just yeah, so I so feel that.
SPEAKER_00:I so feel that. I feel like yeah, are you even a writer if you don't like think about setting your novel on fire at least five times a week, right? Like I feel like it's just yeah, exactly. It's so it's so scary. And just picking up on some of the stuff that you said, I feel like um that community aspect, I think, is such a key thing when it comes to like marketing, because obviously we know social media can be like a pain in the butt and really, really overwhelming, right? Uh, because realistically, nobody knows what the algorithm's doing. They can say that they do, but I don't think they do. So you're just really doing whatever and hoping that it works. But I think like creating those connections with, you know, feather fellow authors and arc readers and just like building that out really is what creates that momentum. Oh right. The sharing and that sort of stuff. And I think that's a really cool thing for a lot of people to remember because this is often like all of the authors that I chat with, the vast majority are like, uh, social media is draining my soul. Um, so I really am like trying to like make it a fun thing of like, how can I do this and have fun, show my personality, really keep it simple and just like do whatever. Because you never know, right? There's been so many um people that I've followed that, you know, a year after their book comes out, for whatever reason, something goes and it just like that's what kicks things off. So I think really playing into that long game and like like you are of like thinking about like how am I gonna keep writing? And this is like really the beginning of the journey. So that's a really cool thing. Uh, and like so exciting for you uh to just yeah, like I said, like have those books out in the world. Um that's that's such a mind-blowing thing. That's so cool.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, it is really like it's just like it's just weird holding like this book in my hands. Like it's not a real book, like it's not it's not on my phone or anything. It's it's here. Yeah. So yeah, I yeah, I definitely agree with um all the all that you're saying. Like, yeah, the community aspect is is the strongest bit because yeah, like my arc my arc readers, like that like like uh talking to them and like seeing like how they connect with the story, like has been like the most like helpful thing and like how like they're sharing and even like peep, there's like also people that like they're like I don't even read your genre, but like I'll make sure it gets to the right audience, and I think it's like really sweet too. And um, and yeah, like I posted on threads, I had like a um one one of my most viewed like threads on it, like like 8,000 people saw it, and like there's a bunch of likes, and like everyone was just saying congratulations, and I was like, Oh, okay, like and like people were saying, like, oh, like I your book sounds interesting. And I'm like, oh my goodness, like yeah, so like yeah, community is really the best part. I think that's the I think that's the main thing I need to that needs to be focused on when it comes to marketing. It's just that you gotta find where those people are, where that community is. That's more the tricky part, but like definitely community is very important.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'd love to hear a little bit about uh what like what is your favorite part of the writing process? That's something is I always find really interesting of uh because everyone is so different in their uh in their journey, and I feel like every book is so different too. Um so yeah, I'd love to hear a little bit about that.
SPEAKER_01:I love like making characters, like the like like this whole like story, like it kind of started with the characters, and I I like finding the like little quirks and stuff, like like um like in in Soulmate List, the male main characters, um, the male main characters like mother. She like oh, she has anxiety, she has um little nicknames, like bird nicknames for everybody, uh like like she calls the male main character Dove and calls the older brother Swan and little and like little quirks like that, and then also kind of like like for the female main character, for example, like I I kind of like put myself in there, like like I've like, like I don't know, like there's a lot of aspects I like putting, like, oh I here's the character that I relate to, and they're gonna they're gonna act like this, they're gonna act like that, and and I'm like, like, oh, this is this is so mean. I kind of wish there was more characters like that. And also like, I also like thinking like like I used to um well I mean I still do like them. I I really like morally gray characters and the main character, he used to be like morally gray, but um like in the beginning when they were like cats, but I'm hoping they were cats, but um, but then I started like flipping ideas, like I'm like, what if he wasn't morally gray? What if he was more like a Disney, like a Disney princess, but like a prince, and then and then it kind of just kind of flipped, and that's kind of like um how the characters came to be. And I love that um process of being able to let be like, hmm, but what if this and what if that? And then also being like, oh, like I like I I can relate to that. I need I need a character like this. So so that's what that's my favorite thing, and yeah, just finding their little quirks and their habits and stuff. That's really fun to me.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, I feel like that's such a key of like I love character-driven stories, obviously with like fantasy and romantic and like those kind of books, and the setting definitely plays a role and the world plays a role, but I I really do appreciate those those books that are just really about like the characters. And I I'm really loving like all of the representation that's coming through um in our like in books now, especially with the the indie publishers and self-published books. Um because that's really like pushing what I think what we're gonna see in like the the traditionally published books as well of just having these characters that feel more relatable. Even if they are fantasy, there is still that sort of like, you know, they've got maybe they've got anxiety or like different things. And it's that's something that I feel like I always wanted to read. Um, but that it never really was in books. Uh or if it was, it always felt like really like sensationalized and like not accurate. So I think it's really cool to see that like you get to infuse those little pieces. And there's something so cool about that when you're infusing these tiny little like little like hints in the story that I feel like only you or like very select people in like your your sphere understands. It just kind of like brings me a little bit of joy of like, oh, like I I'm putting this person in here and they'll know that it's them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, exactly. I I do love that aspect of yeah, just putting more types of characters um and different experiences. I think that's something that I I would love to see a lot more. I know, like like I like I love all these stories that are I but I hear a lot, um like recently people have been saying like I feel like everything's the same. Yes. But I mean I kind of I don't know. I I kind of see where those where those comments are coming from, and I think there just needs to be new experiences uh weaved into the stories. Like I like I I I um like for me when I was writing Soulmate List and the female main character, like um uh that's the first the first character I'm thinking of right now. Or and even like my male main character, I feel like they have kind of experiences that like yeah, I I I guess I kind of already said this, but I have they have experiences that I don't see in books. Like it doesn't it doesn't even have to be like it doesn't even have to be like oh they're like a person of color or they have this like sexuality, it's just like like there's experiences, like yeah, the human more human experiences that could be explored. Like the female main character, she kind of like she she I relate to my female main character because she's passionate about like her people and like and like um it's not exactly racism, but it's it's kind of a reference to it. But um, but like she has to like she's like I like you guys aren't hearing me out, like like you like you need to hear me out, kind of a deal. Um that's like kind of her deal in that. And I feel like like I kind of wish I saw like more female main characters. Um, I mean, I know there's female main characters like that, but I like I I want to see kind of like more like characters that are like debating this, and they're like, like, I feel like you're I feel like you're not hearing me out, and I feel like it kind of could be done more often. And then also the my male, for example, my male main character is kind of um has his own experience with like when it comes to modern day like dating and kind of like how the dating world sucks. And yeah, and uh he he's kind of has has a bit of that experience, and he's like, Well, I like I want to find love and like I'm like a respectful, I like he's like, I I'm not gonna force anyone to love me, but you know, I do still want that romance, like I still want that, and I feel like that's a topic that could also be explored like today, like the whole like dating scene of like just being like uh this like like is love ever gonna come? Is it ever like it, yeah, that kind of a thing? So yeah, I yeah, yeah, I think it is cool to have like like new experiences for with these characters and like it could speak to people, like speak to people, and like I've never seen it that way. But I don't know, one of my arc readers, like she she made a video, she was like, I I feel seen by the by this book, and I was like, Oh, oh my goodness, like my heart, but um, she was like, I feel really seen by this book, and like when it comes to like the modern dating world and um yeah, her like yeah, her Instagram's the witchy author, and yeah, like I love I love that I was able to connect in that way, and it's a very beautiful thing to see people like I I've experienced that, I've never seen that in the book, and I feel seen. I love I love that kind of thing going on. So yeah, I I like I like that, and I think it's important to just have like more diverse like experiences. It's a like it doesn't have to be like about um yeah, like yeah, it just like just human experience, like just different human experiences. Yeah, just not it doesn't have like I said, it doesn't necessarily though I think it's very important. Like it doesn't have to be like necessarily that's a person of color or like or a different sexuality. In my opinion, I think that I think that those are definitely important and need to be raised. I'm not saying that I'm not saying that they don't need to be raised. I'm saying I'm saying like it just does it doesn't have to be just that from what I'm saying, but it could also be like just just different problems that are having and that people are having in the world that people are having in their um reality.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, definitely totally hear that. Of just like almost like taking it a little deeper in a way, of like, yeah, like the like bringing the humanness back to it. Like this is sort of like a very much uh a human experience that a lot of us kind of could experience regardless of like race or skin color or like culture or any of that sort of stuff. And I think that's a really interesting thing. Cause to me, that really is kind of what storytelling is all about is like making us feel like we're not alone. Um and like being able to bring those little things in, even those small little moments of just like things that you don't typically see in in books or even in TV shows of things that are like that you think you're the only one that has ever like experienced that. And then I think that's so cool that you're like bringing that and into the into your stories. And that's such a cool way of looking at it of like, oh, how can we take some of these things that maybe are have been done, um, but like how can we make it a little different? How can we like go a little deeper with these like experiences and really like connect with readers in in a way? And I think that's a that's a really I I hadn't have thought of it of that way of like okay, yes, like you said, represent representation is so important and to have that diversity is amazing. And I'm so glad that that's becoming like more of a thing. Um but yeah, of like, well, what else? Like where where else can we kind of like you know, peel back the the the curtain, so to speak, and and see like these experiences and infuse them even into fantasy and and all of these like really like wild, fantastical kind of like stories that still feel like we still relate to in some kind of way, which is super cool. Um that's a yeah, that really like, oh, that makes made me think um that's a really cool way of looking at things. Uh I would love for you to share how people can get in touch with you um and find your your book. Like how can they follow along on your journey and obviously get get this book in their hands because they definitely need it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So uh for a soulmate list, it is on um it's on Amazon now. You can read it on Kiddle Unlimited. Um, you can get the paperback version on Amazon, and uh you can go to my website if you want, um if you want to um if you want to sign up for my newsletter, you can go to my website. It's linked in um it's linked in my Instagram bio, which is um Sam Piper Rights. That's and that's my that's my handle on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and threads. So if you wanna if you wanna see like updates through there, um then I'd be happy to have you guys. And yeah, it would it would it's a fun, it's gonna be a fun journey. So so yeah, um, so can can unlimited in Amazon um for some wait list. And then um I don't even know if I said that correctly. That's the same as sound like I said it.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, it's all good. Don't worry, like everything will be linked in the show notes, just for our listeners. Everything will be linked in the show notes, so it'll be super easy for people to click through. Obviously, like Amazon, like love it or hate it. It's a it is a good resource for the the indie author, self-published authors, and it's it's worldwide and it really makes these books accessible to everyone. So uh highly recommend like supporting um authors through that. Uh, and then like I said, your your website will be linked in the show notes and also highly recommend signing up for your newsletter because that's probably the best way to stay in touch um and follow along on your journey. But it was lovely chatting with you. Uh, I love hearing about your book and your process and so excited that it is out in the world. That's like such a huge accomplishment. So I'm like, I get so pumped to see authors and uh follow their dreams and like actually get their book out into the world. Like it brings me so much joy.
SPEAKER_01:So thank you so much for having me. And you've asked like really interesting questions, and I love like the back and forth, like like your input on it. And yeah, I I love that having that kind of conversation. That's a beautiful thing. Like, I I like I love I love uh the the whole back and forth and getting different ideas and like your perspective on it. So I I love I love that I'm on here and I'm glad that I was able to be in this interview with you.
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