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Crafting Gothic Fantasy: Priscilla Envy's Journey from Fan Fiction to Published Author
Priscilla Envy transports us into her world of dark, romantic, gothic fiction, sharing her evolution from a middle school fan fiction writer to an accomplished author with her first fantasy series at 18. We traverse her creative journey, enriched by influences from fan fiction and anime, and get a sneak peek into her work-in-progress, "Project Starlight," featuring an enigmatic protagonist, Erwin. Priscilla's charming resistance to the digital age of ebooks and audiobooks adds an endearing layer to her old soul persona.
Lashun Williams, also published under Madame Prusilla Envy, is an African American fantasy author and writer of romance, dark romantasy, and gothic romance. She's the author of the "Element Princess" series under her pen name, Jenaia Williams. In 2023, Lashun also published "Sea Comedies" with DG Sentinel, with Quillkeepers Press in 2024, and published poetry with Livina Press in 2024. She’s currently working on her sea themed adult dark romantasy series, currently identified as project STARLIGHT.
Book blurb: Eirwen Warrin never thought she’d leave her quiet life in the cliffside town of Pazolli. At 26, her world is small: a paranoid mother, a devout best friend, and the distant comfort of Titanus, the God of Love and Sea. But when cursed pirates with hollow eyes and peeling skin attack her home, everything changes. The Gods are silent, Pazolli burns, and Eirwen is left at the mercy of the Black Trinity—a fleet of cursed ships spreading death in their wake.
Her unlikely savior is Anthos Azerbin, captain of the infamous ship Zakona, a man with his own dark past and one driving mission: destroy the Black Trinity before they can resurrect their malevolent God. Years ago, Anthos struck a fateful deal with Eirwen’s father, promising protection in exchange for something far more precious than either could have imagined. Now, with their fates entwined, Eirwen and Anthos must navigate betrayal, forbidden magic, and their growing connection as they seek vengeance and answers.
But as the Black Trinity’s power grows, so do the dangers. Will they stop the cursed fleet, or will they lose themselves—to magic, to madness, or to the sea’s endless depths?
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Oh hey, it's Victoria from Victoria Jane Editorial and your host of Bookshop Chats. This podcast is all about authors, writing and the magic that goes into storytelling. We cover all of the things that go into writing a book, from the creative process, from taking your idea to a first draft, creating and cultivating community within the author space, marketing all of the fun things. If you are a reader, a wannabe writer or an author, you will find tips and tricks that suit whatever level you are at. So I hope that you enjoy and you are, unfortunately, or fortunately going to find many more books to add to your TBR, so I will invite you to sit back and listen to the episode. Welcome back to Bookshop Chats. In today's episode, I'm chatting with Priscilla Envy. Welcome to the podcast, hello, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2:I'm so excited and happy new year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, I just don't know what happened, right, like we're here now, like the two weeks of Christmas, feel like it like went on forever.
Speaker 2:Collectively, what I've been seeing online is 2024 has been like a dumpster fire? Yeah, certainly, especially last autumn.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh my gosh, I don't know what happened yeah, I echo, I echo that fully of like what's WTF? So but we're here and we're, we're kind of thriving, we're, we're, we're we're doing it, we're showing up so. I'm very excited to chat with you today and we're just going to dive right in and I would love to hear all about your book. I was reading a little bit of the teasers that you had in the notes and I'm like I just I need to know more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so hello. First of all, my name is Priscilla Envy. I write dark, romantic, gothic fiction and I publish short stories. I'm a published poet fiction and I publish short stories. I'm a published poet, and ultimately, what got me interested in writing was writing fan fiction.
Speaker 2:In middle school, I had to write about all these worlds that I did not own, and I just felt obligated to do it. And then I remember writing one fanfic. I was sitting on my couch in my living room minding my own business, and I was like I want to publish my own stuff, like I felt. It was like the pride that I had not to say. I didn't feel pride anymore, but it was like I don't own this, you know, I can't do anything with it. And so I just wanted to do my own thing, and so I published my first fantasy series at 18. Um, life happened throughout my 20s, and so it uh took me on and off the writing course, and so, uh, I want to say around 2023 is when I was like you know what, I'm not gonna put this on the side anymore. Uh, I'm not gonna to drag other people to go down this journey with me. This is a solitary thing. So I dedicated myself to my work. Let's see, I ended up publishing in several magazines. After that, I ended up submitting so much more work than I thought I would. I'm still in the query process.
Speaker 2:Um, my current project is what I currently title project starlight, not the official title. Uh, it's a sea themed dark romanicy. Uh, adult book that mainly follows the protagonist, erwin, who apparently is going through a cluster of ridiculousness, and I absolutely love writing her because she's so different. Like I've seen a lot of stories that have, like I want to say they call it coming of rage stories and and like they're super cool. But for Erwin, I wanted a character that was a bit more chill and it's like a WTF. What is going on? What is that? You know, it's like a a more realistic spin of a fantasy situation that none of us would like survive, but she ends up like surviving it somehow.
Speaker 1:I love that. That's amazing. I find that so fascinating. Is that sort of what I guess is fantasy kind of where you started when it came to like right? Is that what kind of drew you into the whole like process? I echo a lot of the fan fiction I wrote about like bands, you know, same same, like people, characters, like things that exist. It's just like you know. It just gives you that outlet and it's really fun and creative and it kind of gives you a taste of what it's like to actually write a book it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was a huge anime nerd, like oh my goodness, and I loved bleach and a lot of romance animes. At the time I I call it my romance era, where I just only consumed romance animes and I was writing about, like date and like you know, stories of those characters and I was so in it. But even before then I was writing about my Bratz dolls. I I was like Chloe did this and Jade did that, and so I've always been writing.
Speaker 1:Amazing. I love that. I find that that's often a theme for a lot of the authors that I've connected with is there's just always some element of writing, and I think often it's not necessarily it doesn't have to be fiction. For some it's like they journaled their whole life or they just there's. There's always something that kind of like pulled them in or even reading. That's another big thing that I've come to realize is so important to the whole writing process is is actually reading books to the whole writing process is actually reading books.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh my goodness. Now I've been working on that the past few years and seeing that there's so many ways to read, like I have a soul of a 60 year old and I'm just like what is this ebook? I'm like what is an audio book and I just have headphones. I'm like what is this? I'm so old.
Speaker 1:I know I love that, I know. I fully echo that there's something really magical about the fact that we can do all of these things now. I think that that's a really cool way of getting the book into your brain, because that's sometimes how I can all I can only like process it through audio, for whatever reason, like I just it just allows me to be busy and do things and just connect, and I feel like it's a really cool way of listening and hearing how a story unfolds. And, especially as a writer, it's really neat to see how other authors kind of like create their worlds, create their stories, create that kind of stuff, and that's something that I really really love about reading now is like, oh, like, what are they doing? How did they do this? This is really neat.
Speaker 2:No, it is. I love following my favorite authors on like Instagram, like, oh, mainly over there, and I just see their process and I'm such a woman for like this is my writing routine. I'm like what do you do?
Speaker 1:You know, because everyone has ideas that pop up so randomly and it's such such a it's a solitary but welcoming experience sometimes, and especially when it just pops up out of nowhere yeah, definitely, I feel like that's really I think you make a good point too is just how you know, in 20s or whatever life happened and I feel like often that's a really important piece of the puzzle when it comes to writing is that it's OK to take breaks and it's OK to like let life happen, and that's often a great way for, like you said, those ideas to kind of like pop in and you just have that lived experience that maybe you didn't have before, so that then you can write it and add it to your character.
Speaker 1:So I would like I said I'd love to hear a little bit more about your like work in progress and and how this all like how did this start? Like what made you, I guess, jump from not even like you were already writing like fan fiction and poetry and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, I'd love to hear more about how this, this came to be.
Speaker 2:I. Where did this start, girl? Oh well, I wanted to challenge myself because I was so tired of living this section of my life where I say I'm going to do it and it doesn't happen. And it wasn't even like a lack of motivation. I don't know where the energy went, but I'll tell you where it went. It went to other people. It went to applying for jobs that I didn't even want. It went to pleasing people and following narratives that weren't mine. And so I allocated my energy. I did an invoice of energy, if you will, and I realized a lot of it was not going towards my writing. So when I allocated that, I created 12 month prompt, like writing prompts, and from there I submitted those stories to magazines and anthologies. Some I got accepted. I got a lot of rejections, which I ended up writing down. So I don't think rejections are a terrible thing, and ultimately it led me to writing my dark academia contemporary romance I've titled Darcy's Finest. No details on that yet. But, girl, I'm telling you, I just keep on writing, you keep on going until you know, until everything figures itself out.
Speaker 2:But ultimately, from there I watched Pirates of the Caribbean, curse of Black Pearl, and at the end of the movie, I was just like I want to write something like this. So it was just random. I was on the couch just again, just looking, minding my business, and I was like, oh, I want to write something like that. So I did. And I went on the computer and I wrote, uh, first manuscript. Didn't know where I was going to take it, I had no plans, the idea was just to get it down. So I did, and now it's potentially a trilogy. I do not know. Dee is planning her own course and I am going along with it.
Speaker 1:I love that, I think that's amazing and I think that goes to show how just unique the writing journey is for every single author, because some people it is that it's very like organized and methodical and planned out. And other people like myself, it's like utter chaos and we're just like winging it, and oftentimes the story is just taking us somewhere and we're like, okay, cool, I guess we're going along for the ride it is.
Speaker 2:No, that's exactly where I was at for a while because I had, after finishing the manuscript, I put it down, left it alone for a few months, came back to edit and I'm like I see where you're going, but if I'm going to publish this and I do fully intend to I gotta I gotta filter it, you know, and so now she's making a lot more sense and I'm more organized in that process. But overall, I realize the writing process is a very interesting one for each author and I think for aspiring authors or aspiring writers, it's important to identify your writer's DNA. What do you do? How do you do it? How do you operate like on and off screen? You know cause? Most writers now record their whole process. Do you have to be quiet for a certain amount of time? Do you want to be loud? You know it's all of that. It can be daunting, but overall, if you love what you do, if you truly want to do this, it's quite rewarding.
Speaker 1:That's such a great reminder, I think, for authors and writers, of just like it's really. You got to figure it out, and a lot of it is like trial and error and see what happens, but I think, at the core of it, the more writing you do, the better you become as a writer and I think that that's a really great example of just like. You just have to put the story down, and I I really always encourage authors to not to throw out their old stuff, because you never know when it's going to come back and you might want to revisit the story and you're like oh, wow, I've learned so much. This would be such a great thing to like revamp or even just to see how much you've grown. I think it's a really great way to look back and be like wow, I, that was bad, but also bad in like, not from a judgmental way, but like just to see like the growth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is, it's really cool it is my first series, um, the element princess series. I published it under Jenea Williams uh, it's still on Barnes and Noble and Amazon. But when I look back on those books I was like I I had such an ambition and I was so proud of myself and I still am. But it's like I've grown so much. I've learned so much in the publishing world. I've learned so much in life and in general. I've learned so much more about people and, as you mentioned earlier, with that life experience you bring it into your writing. You really do, hopefully, mature with your writing and it does change and you're like, I don't know, I'm not the kind of writer that looks back on my old work. I'm like, oh, my god, this sucks. You know, like and I don't think I suck at all, I don't think my writing sucks. I'm like, oh, that can be changed or that can be edited or, you know, I don't need that sentence anymore and that's quite fine, it's healthy.
Speaker 1:I think that's so. That's such a great point. I said it. It was great for you like that version of you, right Like. I think that's the thing is that we're meant to grow, we're meant to evolve, we're meant to shift and like our art. That's just. That's what happens. And the more we know, the more we know, the more we you know, the it's not even the better that we do right like it's. It's not like there's ever this like end goal. I don't think with like when it comes to writing a book, like there's no such thing as a perfect book yeah, right like there's the, it's messy, it's like there's that, all of that process.
Speaker 1:But I think it's that confidence, maybe that kind of like you, you know, shows up more, especially when you are writing and there's a lot of rejection yeah, there is, oh, my goodness. So I'd love to, I'd love to hear a little bit more about your experience with that and how you navigate that to like keep going, cause I know it's hard sometimes.
Speaker 2:It is the hardest part has been working through things, financially, of course, but I'm a firm believer of if I want to do it, I'll make time for it. Uh, so, even though things have been difficult, ultimately what keeps me going is knowing I was born for this. Um, I think writing at least for me, it's a sensual thing, almost where it's me on a date with the book or with the series, and I light a candle or I drink water with it, or you know, it's like a one on one kind of thing. And as a writer, it's my responsibility to learn all the words you know, to be in the process and I love it, I genuinely love it. Ultimately, what keeps me going is that it is the love of it, it's the need to get stories out.
Speaker 2:I want to be the type of writer where my fans can look at a whole shelf of my work and they're like that's my favorite. That's my favorite. That was okay, not my favorite, but I still love it enough to get the special edition. Ultimately, if I'm a household name, cool. If I'm not, that's okay. Ultimately, my creed is I don't publish bullshit. You know, like I just I don't. If I'm not confident in it, I'm not going to publish it. I I'm not the kind of writer that writes for the sake of money.
Speaker 2:I love money universe, I love money but, like um I, I want to do something for me and ultimately, I want my fans to enjoy my stories as much as I do.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 1:I think that's so important, right Like.
Speaker 1:I feel like, obviously, as authors, you want to be compensated, right Like that's just how we have to survive in this world. You know, money, money, but um, but I think when you're writing from that like deeply personal place, right like that, that kind of is what is the driving force, because it's constantly, you know, like crap, like this didn't work, gotta get like do it again, revamp it, shift it, change it. Right like there's constantly pivoting and, um, if you don't really believe in yourself or the story, like it's going to be a lot harder to do it and to like really, yeah, I just feel like the story hits so much deeper too when you're writing it from that place of like, uh, even if I'm the only one that reads it at the end of the day at least like it's I'm, I'm putting it out because I know that somebody will hopefully get something out of it well, you can tell authors, or you can tell the difference between authors that care about their work a lot and authors who kind of were a bit lazy with it.
Speaker 2:You know no shame, no hate, but you can easily tell after a while. But ultimately, like I said, if you love this, if you love the process cause I love the process- you know, like I don't love marketing that much, but I know how to do it, you know. But if you love it, then do it.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, a hundred percent. So let's talk a little bit more about like marketing, cause I know that that's often like the bane of author's existence.
Speaker 1:And I feel like obviously the talk of the town now and by the time this is out it's gonna be old news is TikTok not necessarily being a thing for people in America? I'm in Canada and I think there's similar talks of it being like banned or like we, we can't use it in the same way that it's utilized it in the states. Um, so I feel like for a lot of people that's like oh, oh, like how, or is anyone going to see me Like? It just feels very overwhelming. So I would love to hear about like, how you approach like marketing and yeah, making it not, maybe not so frustrating.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, oh, my goodness. I had to overcome several things in myself because I used to have an Instagram that had like 500 followers. I got rid of it because I just didn't feel like me after a while. I didn't have a good balance between work and play, admittedly, so my page that went to being a fun place all of a sudden became the victim of the algorithm, if you will, and so got rid of that, started over and I'm seeing it as fun, like. This is my process. Why should it not be fun? Like I said, I'm an old woman. I don't know how to do this real thing. I don't, I don't, I really don't. And then what is it? Pinterest? I can only use certain images because it's illegal, like to market my stuff under that, which is totally understandable, but it's like it is a job. It's like it really is a job. Um and so for me, because, like I do marketing professionally anyway, I don't hate it, but if I could pay a social media person, I would.
Speaker 2:But for authors to make it easier, I would say put some time aside to actually collect your content. What I'm practicing this year is being more strategic with my content, using that scheduler thing that social media things have, uh, also talking with other content creators. See how they do it. I'm gonna learn how to do reels this year. Don't laugh at me. I love it. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah, to take your time with it. It can get very frustrating. And don't look at the numbers. I know how hard that is to do, but I don't I. I know numbers are important to a lot of publishing experts. I know traditional publishing houses won't even look at you unless you have a certain following or number how you're doing it, whatnot. So of course, that matters in the grand scheme of things, but to make it your whole priority, to make it your whole identity, can be very scarring on the entire process.
Speaker 1:I think that's so true right, like, at the end of the day, it's, I feel like, focusing on that community and connection, like that's going to be what makes the difference right, because it's going to be better to have 500 followers but they're engaged and connection, like that's going to be what makes the difference right, because it's going to be better to have 500 followers but they're engaged and active and you're versus, you know, 20,000 and nobody.
Speaker 2:There's nothing right Like so.
Speaker 1:I think that that's a really important like thing to remember and, like you said, that that scheduling and one thing that I've I've definitely found useful in in my business is uh like, like you said, setting out that time, scheduling content, batching your content, uh that works for some people. For other people they're like I don't like it. So it's really like coming down to like figuring out what works for you and what is doable, I think of like don't overwhelm yourself and do what you can with you know, with your time, but not at the expense of your like writing, oh for sure no, there's some uh authors that reuse content, which is usually what's recommended.
Speaker 2:Anyway, the point is to get people to notice uh, to actually pay attention, to share, because in my the followers that I had in my previous Instagram, I had like 10 likes. I, despite the paid advertising, there was hardly any engagement. So I mean, they were real people, don't get me wrong, but, um, that it can be discouraging, you know, if you have all these people and no one's talking to you. You know, but that's also part of the process for me. Anyway, I had to make it more fun, so I'm like, if someone sees it or not, awesome, but ultimately I would like more engagement, so that's why I'm working on that as well.
Speaker 1:I think that's that's key, and I feel like a lot of people are really I think I don't know it's been a trend or said it's a trend, which I think is silly, but like just authenticity right. Like people just want, like just be yourself, and that's really what it comes down to is just show up and, you know, show your process and create like. That's what I feel like pulls a lot of people in um, especially showing kind of like the author side of and the writing side of the whole process, as well as the actual book and that kind of thing, which is really kind of cool that we get that like insider you know experience now with like our favorite authors to see like their process and stuff like that. So I think that that's a yeah, it's, it's it's part of the process now, so like learning how to work with it. But I definitely echo what you said I would love to have somebody do it all. Be like, I just don't want to do it.
Speaker 1:But also I do like there's this, like yeah, it's that yeah.
Speaker 2:I want to do it because it's fun. You know, I don't want to do it because it's a job. Necessarily. It's like, if I'll make content, let me do it, cause I'm having a good time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely Right, and that shows that's what makes it like, that's what makes the process much easier is that you know you're just going to do it, see what happens, hope for the best and then just keep keep moving forward. Yeah, that's pretty much. I feel like life pretty, pretty much, pretty much. I would love to hear what would be some advice or like one piece of advice that you'd have for somebody who is just starting out the writing journey.
Speaker 2:Oh, I always, always, always, recommend someone knowing their writer's DNA, which I mentioned before. I learned it through a writer, Rachel Geisel, I believe I'm saying that correctly. She did a writing course online called the writer's DNA, and I found her through Pinterest because I love her content. I don't think she's making videos and content anymore, but I saw that took her course. It was $29. And, oh my gosh, she helped you dive into what category or what genre, excuse me, you wanted to write in, what you might be fascinated in. She had you identify what books you read, what media you you watch, what inspires you and all that stuff. And ultimately, I saw that I write dark fantasy.
Speaker 2:Now, in my own experience, I culminated all my years of life, really, and I realized I'm not a YA person. I don't, I don't. I read it, but I don't, I don't, uh, I read it, but I can't write it like. I would rather write mature characters. I would rather, uh, write about a 30 year old that's tumbling through life. I would rather write, like age gap, uh, romances where there's a smart young person and maybe, uh, a different kind of individual who's a bit older. You know, like I just I, I don't know I would categorize. I would categorize some of my stories like taboo. But it's not really taboo. People don't talk about it like in darcy's finest uh, there's, uh was. It centers around Adrienne, who's like mid-30s and a younger character, that's like in her early 20s and like at least in my age. In my experience I was a very mature 20-year-old. Say I grew up too fast, I don't know. But ultimately people my age were not upstairs. They were not. They were not. Hey know they were not, they were not.
Speaker 1:Hey, they were not. That that's a really good thing.
Speaker 2:Sorry, um, but yes, keep going no, um, they were not quite all there and I wanted more mature company so I wanted to write about that. Uh, just like with Erwin in Project Starlight. Uh, she's not the fighter, go-getter, raw kind of person. She fights cursed pirates with a cast iron skillet. You know she. She uh freaks out. She does a high-pitched squeal when she's being chased. You know she tumbles over a rock. You know it's like. There's like I want to write about that. So I do. But ultimately, to bring it back, know what you're about, because part of this whole authenticity thing, the trend thing, as you put it and I say this with respect as much as we say, oh, be authentic, we're still putting up a face 100.
Speaker 1:Like how do you do that? Like that's the thing, it's not, like be you, but like what does that mean? Do you want the real me?
Speaker 2:because this should be crazy so also, it's like, if I was the real me, you'd be wondering why I laugh like that. You know, you'd be wondering why I squeal like a little girl when, like, uh, my favorite character says something provocative. You're like. You're like, do you really want to know the real me? No, we're still saving face. But, uh, what keeps me authentic and knowing that I'm moving in authenticity, is recognizing why I'm writing. Am I writing for the money? Am I writing for recognition? Because that's important too? No shame if you want recognition.
Speaker 2:Uh, for me, I write because I feel obligated to. Like I said I would love to share my stories and I specifically want to see character art. You know, I want, uh, books to grammars to be like, oh my god, in a good way, you know. So just find out what you want to do, why you want to do it, and do it for you. Ultimately, I had a lot of friends throughout my life who said they wanted to write and they'll be like oh yeah, I want to do it, want to do it, and they never did. It was all talk and it was discouraging for me because I took it professionally the whole time and they were like oh yeah, yeah, I would like to or um, they would be upset at me for being that dedicated, so like, ultimately, I don't know. I would say a big life lesson is recognize how people act. When you actually start doing your dreams, they change completely. But yeah, do what you want to do.
Speaker 1:I think that's great. Yeah, that's so super important and I think really having that why is going to be a really important piece of the puzzle because it is. It is a. It's hard and I think, too, there's not saying that like your first book that you publish out in the world is is going to be like you know, it's just trying to think of where I want to take that um it's not going to be the best seller it's like yeah, like, I feel like that's something that like yes, obviously it, it could.
Speaker 1:There's no like it right, but it's there is that element of like. Sometimes you need to play the long game, I think that's what I'm trying to say. Is that that like big picture vision of like where you're going and it can be easy to get stuck in the short term now and and that you know life happens and you get sidetracked. And really, just coming back down to the why of like, what is this goal? How am I going to like make it happen and that kind of thing, and just really working with your unique situation, circumstances and figure out how to make it happen for you, and that's going to look very different for each one of us.
Speaker 2:So oh, of course, there are best-selling authors, first time uh authors. Several debut authors make it big, but be realistic with it as well, you know. Don't discourage yourself, don't be like, oh my god, this is going to be a failure. It's my first book. No, don't do that. Yeah, no, I think her name was, uh, brielle brianne randall. She did a, I think, a series of unfortunate oh goodness, yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I've seen her on Instagram.
Speaker 2:I think I follow her as well, hers was a bestseller like instant, I think, but essentially she put her mind to it. She's a real queen at this point. She does reels all the time. But yeah, don't, don't, don't discourage your first book or even your second or third or anything.
Speaker 1:Just like I said, I, like I've been saying, do it for you, definitely, and I think it's it's getting a book out there is a huge feat as well. Right, like, own that. Celebrate that, right, cause that's, that's a big, big deal, right, a lot. I don't know what the statistics are, but I feel like a very small number of people who actually start writing a book, get to the end and get it published and get it out into the world, so that, like, we're going to celebrate that and that I think that's a really important thing that I'm taking to heart this year. Just celebrate all of the little wins.
Speaker 2:We're going to.
Speaker 1:We're going to celebrate the heck out of that. So I love that. And then, finally, where can people connect with you, follow along on your journey and obviously get insights into when this book is going to be coming out into the world? Because it sounds amazing, oh, thank you?
Speaker 2:No, oh, okay. So I'm on Instagram at Madam P Envy Also. There's my sub stack Priscilla's house. I have that up. I have the biggest intention of putting up a post every month. We're planning it, we're scheduling it, we're doing it. I see, every month, we're planning it, we're scheduling, we're doing it. Um, let's see. Uh, I'm also on threads, uh, with madame pnb as well. Uh, for my first fantasy, uh, novel, uh, element princess, you can find that on barnes and noble and amazon. Uh, I'll make sure to provide links and all that stuff too. But uh, yeah, you can find me on there amazing.
Speaker 1:Well, everything will be linked in the show notes. Uh, so people can easily find you, find your books and follow you and all of the good things. And uh, yeah, looking forward to following along on the journey and it was super lovely chatting with you today oh my gosh, it was so great.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Thanks so much for listening to today's episode. I would love if you would leave a review and also, if you love the author that we chatted with, go find them on social media and hype them up, comment on their stuff, share their work. Even if you can't buy the book, these kinds of things are great ways of supporting indie authors and getting their book in front of new readers. And if you are a writer or author in need of a developmental editor, please reach out. I would love to chat. Everything is linked in the show notes and it would be an absolute honor to be able to get eyes on your novel. So thanks again and listen to the next episode.
